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I work as a clerk in a grocery store, and I agree one hundred percent with Deveny. When a child is causing a disruption and the parent isn't doing anything about it, the rights of bystanders shift. It is important to be respectful of parents' rights to set their own ground rules, but it is not okay to let those rules (or lack thereof) negatively effect those around the child. And yes, I believe that a child being inappropriately loud in my favorite restaurant while a parent sits idolly by constitutes someone saying something. There's no need to be rude, and perhaps one doesn't need to directly confront the child, but a quiet word to the parents? If they get upset, take it to the manager if the child is being that bothersome. As for running through a grocery store, that's both inappropriate and unsafe. The child could go barreling around a corner only to plow into an elderly customer who doesn't have the best balance. I only raise such a scenario because I saw it occur only two days ago. There was a time when the intimidation of being told your manners by a complete stranger made kids behave better. Today they stick their tongues out at the stranger and say, "You can't tell me what to do!" Times have changed. I don't agree that they've change for the better.


And who are you to sit and judge whether a parent is correctly disciplining their child? At one time my now 7 year old rfarely spoke or made a noise, she started making the funniest noise in a restaraunt and it was a blassing to our ears, we laughed and it was truly excellent to hear my child's voice, and you want to go say something to a parent who may have never or rarely heard the voice of their child? If you don't like the way children act, don't get yourself in situations where you will be around them! If a child is running in a grocery store, who's to say the child didn't walk until they were almost 2 (kind of like my little boy because a developmental delay) It would truly have been a blessing to see my little boy run through a grocery store at the age of 2! And you want something said to them? Until you walk a mile in a parent's shoes, don't go disciplining other people's children or saying something to their parents or harshly judging them for how they let their child act, you have no clue what they have been through! I'll say it again, if you don't like children, don't get yourself into situations to be around them, shop late at night, don't go out in public places before 9pm, it can be done, because the parent you confront may not be as nice as I have!


Running in a grocery store, or any store, is unacceptable behavior. It is uncivil and rude. I can't tell you how many times I've had clerks from many stores thank me for keeping my children under control. That's not to say that they've never been loud in a restaurant, or run in a store at all; I also want them to enjoy themselves. But letting your child run just to run, or use wheeled shoes in a public mall or store, is rude to other patrons of that store. It's rude to the owners and employees.
Yesterday in a store I watched a child knock over something (accidentally). The mother said, while walking away, "you pick that up", and the child not only did *not* pick it up, but defiantly kept walking. And the mother did nothing. She did not follow through. *That's* where it all breaks down. Parents say they tell their children to do one thing, but they don't follow through. Establish consequences and stick with it!


So, by this logic, society has no say in what they will tolerate in terms of behavior of you/ your child no matter how disruptive or destructive they might be? I'm sorry but if your delightful child chooses to make his first sound in the middle of church service or while I am dining at a nice restaurant (where civilized people don't bring their young kids to begin with) I will say something to you. I don't care about your justifications. Your rights end where mine begin. Being disruptive is out of order and selfish, and I will say something.

Scientology Parent

"...the only time we should be disciplining another person’s child is when it’s necessary to prevent dangerous and destructive behavior."

Totally agreed -- I usually just go and take it up directly with the parents if possible, as they're usually running poor or no control on their kids, and usually it's not malicious -- they just don't know what to do to handle it.

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